Car ID? Nope, this time it's an airplane ID.

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 09/20/2018 at 16:28 • Filed to: planelopnik

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I posted this picture earlier today as my !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! post. A couple of you ID’d the car, which is good, since I didn’t know what it was (it’s Lamborghini Espada). But then AuthiCooper !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! about the plane. And that led to some Internet sleuthing because apparently I’ve got more time to waste today.

It’s hard to make out, but the name of the 747 is just above the rear window of the Espada. Back in the 1970s, Qantas had an entirely 747-200 fleet (747-238B, to be precise). Each one was named after an Australian city. The first one, registered VH -EB A, was named City of Canberra . Near as I can tell, this one is VH -EB G, City of Hobart . It entered service with Qantas in 1974. I think I read somewhere that the Lambo is a 1972, so that just about jibes. If anybody else can figure out the name of the airplane definitively, I’d love to hear from you.

http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/vh-ebg/vhebg.html

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:31

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I think it’s City of Hobort

ttyymmnn > For Sweden 09/20/2018 at 16:33

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facw > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:35

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Seems like the name is pretty definitive, what else would it be?

ttyymmnn > facw 09/20/2018 at 16:37

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Well, I haven’t researched all the other possibilities. It’s the first one that looked like a match. Then again, I think they only had about six of them.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:42

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I’ve search Airdisaster.net thoroughly and still can’t find anything on Qantas.

/rainman

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 09/20/2018 at 16:44

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I sent the photo to the author of the website I linked. His site seems quite exhaustive, and was updated two days ago.  If anybody on the planet can confirm it, I’ll bet it’s that guy.

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 09/20/2018 at 16:44

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And now I see what you actually wrote. Well played.

someassemblyrequired > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:49

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I see the kangaroo and emu of the Hobart crest.

AuthiCooper1300 > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:53

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F ascinating h i s t o r y . S o many changes.

MonkeePuzzle > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 16:55

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ahh, but what about in colour?

ok, it’s not VH-EBG, but (and I know I’ve shared these on another of your posts) here is VH-EBK (a 747-239B) (but maybe thats VH-EBG in the background) taken by my father at Melbourne airport in the 80s

and VH-EBR - 747-238B

ttyymmnn > MonkeePuzzle 09/20/2018 at 16:59

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Nice. Here is City of Hobart . Not crazy about the red and orange.

(photo by R.N. Smith)

MonkeePuzzle > MonkeePuzzle 09/20/2018 at 16:59

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or maybe its here hidden behidn this pan am gem

MonkeePuzzle > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 17:02

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the red is a little more subtle in the scans of my fathers faded pics :D

ttyymmnn > MonkeePuzzle 09/20/2018 at 17:04

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So, your dad was an aviation geek too?

MonkeePuzzle > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 17:06

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yes, but perhaps by accident. he was a travelling salesman most of his career, and a thorough shutterbug. so perhaps it was just that he was around planes a lot and had his camera on him all the time.

he certainly knew a LOT about planes. but perhaps that too was by accident, the sort of thing a mechanical engineer just absorbs when at an airport very frequently

MonkeePuzzle > MonkeePuzzle 09/20/2018 at 17:08

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I take it back, he’s clearly always been a plane nerd. pics prior to vietnam deployment. but again that may just be a man who was always in possession of a camera being bored at another airport

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > ttyymmnn 09/20/2018 at 17:37

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Definitely is City of Hobart. Given that Hobart at that time was smaller in population than most American regional centres (probably still is) ...and probably didn’ t have an airport capable of landing a 747... calling it a city was pandering of the highest order.

ttyymmnn > MonkeePuzzle 09/20/2018 at 18:05

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Caribou!

ttyymmnn > someassemblyrequired 09/20/2018 at 18:05

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Well, there you go.

pip bip - choose Corrour > ttyymmnn 09/21/2018 at 03:52

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Hobart seems correct

bhtooefr > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 09/21/2018 at 06:19

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Any airport can land a 747 if you’re brave enough and dump enough fuel and payload.

(And it looks like Hobart’s runway was lengthened in 1985, partially to take weight-restricted 747s. Looks like it was originally 5800 feet, 6500 feet in 1964, 7385 feet in 1985, and 9026 feet in 2017.)

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > bhtooefr 09/21/2018 at 08:00

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Oh it can manage 747's now...mainly for emergency reasons due to tourist flyovers of Antarctica and the fact that Oz can now land heavy cargo planes in Antarctica...and Hobart is the closest point of call if it all goes wrong.

But back then...nope.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > ttyymmnn 09/21/2018 at 08:16

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Currently VH-EBG is an Airbus A330-203 registered to Qantas. It’s name is Barossa Valley. There are a couple of old pics of the 747 version of VH-EBG, but I haven’t found a large enough photo or a detail of the nose area to confirm the name. Full gallery on jetphotos.com .

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 09/21/2018 at 08:26

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Can confirm that is City of Hobart. You can’t see the name in the photo, but this photo has a little blurb accompanying it that states VH-EBG was named City of Hobart.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6229740

Early model Qantas B747-238B VH-EBG Cn 20841 (Named ‘City of Hobart’), in original ‘Ochre Stripe’ livery with the ‘Winged Kangaroo’ on the tail, taxies at Sydney Airport on 10Mar1982. The aircraft has the 1982 Commonwealth Games logo on the rear fuselage, and the text: ‘Official Carrier - Commonwealth Games Brisb ane 1982'. This Boeing 747-238B was Delivered to Qantas on 19Mar1974, and was sold to El Al in Israel as 4X-AXQ on 08May1988.

After being sold to El Al, it continued to fly until 2004 when it was put into storage. She was scrapped in 2007.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7922571

In other news, before VH-EBG belonged to the Qantas 747 it was a Qantas 707-138B.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6862511

bhtooefr > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 09/21/2018 at 08:36

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A 747 can get stopped on a 6500 foot runway, although taking back off is a problem...

Here’s a Dreamlifter that got stopped on a 6100 foot runway, loaded with cargo: https://wjla.com/news/videos/boeing-747-lands-at-wrong-airport-in-kansas-97158

Edit: Oh, hell, I forgot that Princess Juliana International Airport used to have regular 747 service (I’m sure it was weight-restricted pretty badly) on a 7024 ft runway.

ttyymmnn > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much 09/21/2018 at 08:49

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I emailed the author of the site I linked in the post. He replied that it is indeed City of Hobart, and you can see the G painted on the nose that comes from VH-EBG. All the others were VH-EB x . Here is his message:

Good Evening Tim,

Am pleased that you have found my site useful – I try hard to make it one of the best sit es around.

You are spot on – VH-EBG - ‘G’ on nose under first cabin window.

Its a pity the photo is too crappy – prefer the plane over the car!

Take care - Bob

ttyymmnn > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/21/2018 at 08:51

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I emailed the author of the site I linked and he confirmed it. He pointed out the G under the first cabin window that comes from the registration VH-EBG. All of the Qantas 742s were VH-EB x .